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Gib Member White Shrimper Boot Club
Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 944
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:34 am Post subject: my favorite |
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My favorite ones are the snorkelers at the jetties. Surfers do not bother me as they are just going out to sea and want an easy ride out with the currents, BUT ...
those there snorkelers are all together a different ball game. Of course, this is not true of a lot of the snorkelers, but for those that have to swim around right in front of where you are fishing, learn some respect.
Most recent example is no more than 5 people fishing entire Packery North Jetty. Two of these people were an older couple. Three boys are snorkeling around working their way up the channel side. First, they stop and mess around right were the elderly couple are fishing, then they move in front of me. Mind you, they are not simply passing through, they are in a holding pattern. Most of their time was spent above water catching their breath only to go back down.
On this day, they had 85% of the jetty to snorkel with no one around. I guess we must have been were ALL the fish at the jetty were hanging out.
By the way, is it legal to swim in the Packery Channel? |
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shark_bait_OOOHAHA Finger Mullet
Joined: 21 Oct 2011 Posts: 28
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Typically North of PINS, if I am getting potlucked I'll just wait it out... have a beer, take a quick nap, make leaders, typically guys that are running boats in the area I am in will spend only about 30min then jet off, If they dont get any hook ups. I see it as no reason to blow my top instead of having a 30min beer break. You all said alot of people DO carry, my reason all together... Lead flying at 10-20 mph is totally different from 682 mph. Id rather just sit and wait for the stupidity to play its self out instead.
Im in my mid 20s... learned that from an old salty fart that was taking his beer break because of potluckers in the area we were both in one day...
But 80% of the time I am down PINS
Now Down PINS we are in a completely different world.... If just drove 25 + miles down the beach to fish a nice spot I just saw with ....NO.... vehicles around me then all of a sudden some !@# *(&^ shows up and parks 200 yards from me... there is an issue... it will be raining sinker lead
But if that same person comes down to me or stops near me to choot the poot over a beer 1st, then majority of the time Ill tell them the truth of how to fishing is going and tell them to pull over right there and wet a line right next me...
Got'en to know quite a bit of people down PINS doing that, especially out there.. you just never know...
Bout a year ago we were sharkin' near about the 47mm been out there the entire day almost no one passing us... about 4pm truck stops by me an my buddies camp... 3 guys stopped to choot the poot with us and have a quick beer.
They actually asked us if they could run lines about around the 48 if it wouldnt bother us... Our response... "Dont bother us one bit, just if you get hooked up at night throw us a flash of lights and we will come running down to join the action".
We could see from our camp with our binoculars them riggin' baits and running them out.. they ran them backwards instead of longest to short... they ran them short to longest out...
Typically you run your long baits out first because well... your gonna need to paddle that sucker out far and might as well do it when you are fresh...
Any way we see they are gonna run there Blue Avet 50 out they are already winded 1) because they got down late and are trying to run baits out before dark. and 2) they stopped to eat..
Looking through binoculars...
Guys running it out... gets toppled by a wave.. frantically gets back in the yak holding his arm... paddles back in... they are looking at his arm ...leader is near.... they flash us, (we go down in two vehicles when go sharkin') jump in my truck and head down to them... guy had a 16/o J hook in the fatty part of his arm all the way through... they didnt have bolt cutters, I had mine... Cut the hook pulled it out.... poured some alcohol on it, super glued the holes closed and rocked the night out bull chootin' at each others camps...
Moral of the story: Dont piss on others day by being noncontinuous and potlucking, those same people could help you in the near future... _________________ Joe |
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workinbird Member White Shrimper Boot Club
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 524 Location: San Antonio
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Great story! <*/)))>< |
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Central Scrutinizer Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 3582 Location: Flour Bluff
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: my favorite |
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| Gib wrote: | | By the way, is it legal to swim in the Packery Channel? |
As legal as it is to drive over the speed limit. Only time it's really an issue is when you get caught!
BUT, you are right in that a few dunderheads can make it tough for the rest of us who spearfish and have some clue as to what constitutes the "unwritten rules of the jetties". |
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Shallow Angler Pony Mullet

Joined: 15 Oct 2012 Posts: 50 Location: Bulverde, TX
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Same problem with surfers at bob hall pier. I dont think they realize how far some people cast and end up running into my lines. I just think that there is plenty of room for everyone to have some space so get the heck out of mine! |
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Bigrock Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 1380 Location: Sherwood Tx
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I got angry while fishing ...once. That's all.  |
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Fishin' Musician

Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Posts: 7
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| cuzn dave wrote: | | Silly me! I thought this was going to be a thread about Jamaican chicken recipes... |
All you need to know, Dave.
I use it on grilled chicken breast or grilled pork tenderloin.
 _________________ Eat....Sleep....Go Fishing......>< )))'> |
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BobBobber Guest
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:27 am Post subject: |
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OK, I'll weigh in on this with my 2 cents worth.
Swimmers and surfers DO often act like they own every stretch of the beach/surf that they are in. For example, at BHP, the north side has beaches, shelters, toilets, shower, etc.
Whereas the south side has none of those conveniences.
BUT many times, surfers and swimmers monopolize the south water column adjacent to the pier.
Surfers often find that a rip current along the pier will help them get back out without expending any energy. That same rip current can sweep waders and swimmers into troubled waters.
The surfers and swimmers have miles of open beach frontage. Whereas the BHP anglers only can cast just so far. Give those fenced in pier anglers some space, for cryin' out loud
Also, more than once, I have been set up fishing from the surf just south of BHP within sight of my truck in the paved parking lot . . . only to have swimmers and surfers get really too close for their own safety. I would never knowingly cast my lines in their way, but I cannot control the tide currents that can carry the baited hooks for quite a way.
I have had swimmers leave their car and immediately wade out within 30 feet of me and go straight out possibly right toward my bottom fishing rigs. And there were hundreds of yards of vacant shoreline immediately to the south of me.
I wave or yell to get their attention and let them know that I have several sharp hooks moving along the bottom out in front of me. And that I will not be able to tell if the tug on my line is a fish or their foot. I explain that I don't want to see them hurt, but I'm staying there since I was already fishing there before they arrived.
Some move away. Others go right on out in front of me.
It might help if BHP would post a "fishing only" area from the pier southward to the end of the parking lot pavement. Then anglers would have their spot. Surfers and swimmers would be much safer.
BUT the only signs that seem popular are the "NO FISHING" ones we see posted here and there. You don't see signs prohibiting swimming, surfing, kayaking, drunkenness or peeing in the water. BUT signs forbidding fishing can appear unexpectedly at various sites that might seem good for anglers.
Maybe Tyler should drop this thread before the authorities get the idea to start posting "NO FISHING" signs at the places posted here as causing us to be irritated. Prohibiting fishing would eliminate the friction that exists between anglers and ones that transgress into angler's territories. |
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Mad Hatter Horse Mullet

Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 120 Location: South Side
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishin' Musician wrote: | | cuzn dave wrote: | | Silly me! I thought this was going to be a thread about Jamaican chicken recipes... |
All you need to know, Dave.
I use it on grilled chicken breast or grilled pork tenderloin.
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Looks like I am going to need a little of your seasoning. This surfer is a little over done. Caught off the south side of BHP.
Happy Halloween!! _________________ Where's the March Hare???.. |
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obsessed Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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kweber Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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that'll keep the pesky candy-mooching kids off the porch. _________________ the creepy uncle that scares the kids.... |
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SaltyCuda Member White Shrimper Boot Club

Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 892 Location: Corpus
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Sure are a lot of comments about Surfers in this post!
Surfers use the area adjacent to piers and jetty's because the structure helps to create the wave we need to surf, true we use the rip to get out, we go in and out many times and after a while you get tired of paddling over the white water.
Not sure who cares, I just thought I'd share a little insight as to why you find surfers close to BHP and Packery.
It's interesting how possesive some folks are about the water we all share. I am sure this thread could go on for many more pages. |
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Mad Hatter Horse Mullet

Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 120 Location: South Side
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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What is the distance surfers are supposed to hold off from BHP? Is it 300 or 500 feet? If it is 300 feet, then there could be a problem. Most of the time I can pitch my pole farther than that. _________________ Where's the March Hare???.. |
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BobBobber Guest
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| SaltyCuda wrote: | | Surfers use the area adjacent to piers and jetty's because the structure helps to create the wave we need to surf, true we use the rip to get out, we go in and out many times and after a while you get tired of paddling over the white water. |
Most people understand that BHP is a fishing pier. BHP charges fees for fishing rods, fishing bait, and entrance. It was not built and maintained to provide amusement for surfers.
Many times there can be at least 50 people fishing off the pier. In my opinion, it is inconsiderate and rude for surfers and swimmers to enter the narrow corridor that anglers use. Call it majority rules if need be. But to have 2 to 8 surfers invading the anglers' limited space is dangerous for the surfers, what with hooks flying around. Anglers do not want to cause harm to surfers with their hooks. They just want to catch a fish. Plus, the pier anglers are fenced in and not free to roam up and down the beach, whereas surfers can go many places without restrictions.
I do not know if there is a rule about surfers or swimmers keeping a certain safe distance from the pier; nor do I believe any such rule ever would be enforced. |
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FIDO Full Grown Flour Bluffian
Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 1058 Location: Aransas Pass, TEXAS
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| BobBobber wrote: | OK, I'll weigh in on this with my 2 cents worth.
Swimmers and surfers DO often act like they own every stretch of the beach/surf that they are in. For example, at BHP, the north side has beaches, shelters, toilets, shower, etc.
Whereas the south side has none of those conveniences.
BUT many times, surfers and swimmers monopolize the south water column adjacent to the pier.
Surfers often find that a rip current along the pier will help them get back out without expending any energy. That same rip current can sweep waders and swimmers into troubled waters.
The surfers and swimmers have miles of open beach frontage. Whereas the BHP anglers only can cast just so far. Give those fenced in pier anglers some space, for cryin' out loud
Also, more than once, I have been set up fishing from the surf just south of BHP within sight of my truck in the paved parking lot . . . only to have swimmers and surfers get really too close for their own safety. I would never knowingly cast my lines in their way, but I cannot control the tide currents that can carry the baited hooks for quite a way.
I have had swimmers leave their car and immediately wade out within 30 feet of me and go straight out possibly right toward my bottom fishing rigs. And there were hundreds of yards of vacant shoreline immediately to the south of me.
I wave or yell to get their attention and let them know that I have several sharp hooks moving along the bottom out in front of me. And that I will not be able to tell if the tug on my line is a fish or their foot. I explain that I don't want to see them hurt, but I'm staying there since I was already fishing there before they arrived.
Some move away. Others go right on out in front of me.
It might help if BHP would post a "fishing only" area from the pier southward to the end of the parking lot pavement. Then anglers would have their spot. Surfers and swimmers would be much safer.
BUT the only signs that seem popular are the "NO FISHING" ones we see posted here and there. You don't see signs prohibiting swimming, surfing, kayaking, drunkenness or peeing in the water. BUT signs forbidding fishing can appear unexpectedly at various sites that might seem good for anglers.
Maybe Tyler should drop this thread before the authorities get the idea to start posting "NO FISHING" signs at the places posted here as causing us to be irritated. Prohibiting fishing would eliminate the friction that exists between anglers and ones that transgress into angler's territories. |
Seriously? You must be joking....
Is it really that hard to not hit a surfer with your cast??? Hell, no. In fact it is very easy to miss them.
You want folks to not have access to the area just south of the pier? That is outright ridiculous, selfish, and mean.
Why in the hell would you decide to surf fish just south of the pier, so close you had your truck parked in the parking lot? I guess that just doesn't make much since. I mean there is a huge FISHING pier right next to you...
Fishermen, if anyone, act like they own the damn beach, but we all know that it is in fact the turtle who owns South Texas beaches. _________________ Fish hard. You never know when you'll make you last trip south. |
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