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Oil Field Trash II Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| He who shall not be mentioned wrote: | 1983?? seriously man that's the best you can find...
and you think that is still accurate hmmm..  |
the city ordinance is based off a sketch that was done in 1983. That was the last time the pier was rebuilt after damage from hurricanes. is there something dramatically different from the 1983 sketch you would like the good people in city hall to consider? perhaps they should go back and recalculate barnacle growth?
Here's the link. I know you're not really one to follow regulations persay, but based on the vast majority of information you posted on this thread, you could stand to brush up on it yourself.
http://library.municode.com/index.aspx?clientId=13945
I've never ran a boat within several miles of bob hall. This isn't arguing that people should use common sense and give the people on the pier some room, it's about what the actual regulation was. I think it was SB that brought up people being liable for shark gear, etc. |
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SharkBait Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 07 Aug 2011 Posts: 1790 Location: >*)\\\><( Flour Bluff Texas, Earth, Milky Way
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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at least you are in the right thread now...
as i said in the very beginning i am not going to argue, get upset or even be bothered by your online trolling..
like i said
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Oil Field Trash II Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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if you have a different source for the regulation, please post it.
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SharkBait Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Crazyhorse Horse Mullet
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Posts: 135 Location: Olney Texas
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Longer than I care to remember back, but I do remember one time on Bob Hall myself and the group I was with went all the way out to the T Head, and we were fishing with trout tackle and a couple of the "Sharkers" told us we were not allowed out there with trout gear.
Now we had not seen ANYTHING posted ANYWHERE that stated that, so we just kept on fishing.
Not meaning to stir the pot, but regardless of the seriousness of the fisherman, the Gulf belongs to all of us and onme group should n oty try to deny another group use of the resource. JMO. _________________ It is impossible to speak in a manner where you can not be misunderstood. |
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obsessed Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| Oil Field Trash II wrote: | well, since some of you guys were certain the rule was 1000 yards, 1000 feet, 300 yards, maybe 500 yards... I looked it up through all possible governing agencies, and the only actual regulation that gave a specific distance regarding bob hall pier was the city of corpus christi.
the regulation states that
No person shall swim, surf by the use of surfboards, operate boats, motorboats or vessels in the following designated area:
Beginning at a point where the water touches the sand under Bob Hall Pier for a distance of one hundred (100) feet from the outer vertical edges of Bob Hall Pier for the entire water area around said pier as per sketch prepared by the park and recreation department, dated April 28, 1983, which is on file in the office of the city secretary.
interesting. With all the talk about "sharkies" chasing people down, and kicking their supple bum, or trying to extort money out of them, they sure would be in a pickle if they tried to chase the guy down that was 100 or 200 yards away.
I wonder if the guy had damage to his outboard, if the "sharkies" would be liable for the damage since they technically broke the law by using kayaks or surfboards to get their baits off the end of the pier? |
thanks, Oil.....this is exactly what i thought....
i think people get too comfortable with the "i sent baits out, respect my space" rather than look at who will actually get the ticket or fine for breaking the law when it comes to space...
i watched the video yesterday evening and from the way it looks, that boat was a good ways away from the end of the pier....
and like you stated, i wonder if the sharkies from the pier would be held responsible for the lower unit of that boat instead of them bullying the PB'r to get their money back....
interesting, very interesting.... _________________ Trophy whitetail and exotic hunts on some of the finest ranches Texas has to offer, www.mcoutfitterstexas.com
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wallhanger Member White Shrimper Boot Club

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| Its good to have threads like this that prompt some investigation and actual laws or ordinances in this case that provide the proper information to follow. The only problem I had was stating someone would hunt you down or track you to packery and wait for you. Now the proper action should be to post a sign at the pier stating actual tolerance distance for boaters and surfers. And for sharkers any baits beyond 100 feet are at risk. Now we all know things won't change from any of this. That pier could use some full time law enforcement. |
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SharkBait Full Grown Flour Bluffian

Joined: 07 Aug 2011 Posts: 1790 Location: >*)\\\><( Flour Bluff Texas, Earth, Milky Way
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:45 am Post subject: |
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so it must be illegal to run bait off a beach too right?
seriously guys?
according to that all the people who swim or surf near there are breaking the law...they are not i have told you the regulations have changed, and already told you multiple times i will post current regulations next time i visit the pier..
so Bill called the Coast Guard illegally? and they still showed up 10minutes later right?
yall can gang up and make up whatever yall want it doesn't make it right..like i said before..this was a heads up and nothing more.. don't run near Bob hall its illegal and dangerous for you..
if you don't agree and don't care then go ahead and do it..you will face the consequences..
i am not going to argue about this..i will post up today with the current regulations..hope yall have a good day and find something else to argue pointlessly about..
Oil Field Trash you need to stay off internet boards when you aren't sober my friend..
notice the edited posts on this and flounder daddy's report
according to yall my daughter and i (and the other 100people in the water) are breaking the law right?
and the multiple surfing tournaments a year that take place on and right next to the pier are illegal too right?
honestly i would appreciate if yall wouldn't ruin mine or anyone's posts
this was a awesome few hours at Bob Hall with my daughter that i decided to share with yall.(interestingly this doesn't happen on any other website) please leave the integrity of my posts in tact..
please start your own thread to argue among your selves.. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/Shark456Bait/featured
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NaTon D Pony Mullet

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:15 am Post subject: Hehe |
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| well just to make light of it, most numb-skulls who'd run that close to a pier, or play on their jetski's in the jetty break probably wouldn 't have the experience to know what 300 yrds looks like or a 1000 for that matter....so in their case the law is irrelevant.........that's why they do those stupidarsch things they do......there will always be those 'googans' as you call em, and unfortunatly they continue to repopulate....... hahahaha |
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Oil Field Trash II Full Grown Flour Bluffian
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Shark bait. All I did was paste the documented regulation. You can bitch and moan all you like.
Who said its illegal to run baits off the beach? Aren't we discussing the regulation for the pier?
To answer the question about people swimming. Yes, according to the posted city ordinance, I'd say if they're within 100 feet, they're breaking the law. I'm sure the city police have bigger fish to fry though rather than arresting kids for building sandcastles on the beach. |
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SharkBait Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Fish2drink Horse Mullet

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: |
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wallhanger Member White Shrimper Boot Club

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:06 am Post subject: |
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It was a great report as usual. I love your reports and really enjoy your offshore kayak adventures. My buddy and I always mention that you are obviously a good dad that takes his daughter out fishing at every chance. All cool. But, you also included this after the report;
two center consoles ran by the pier less than 100-200yards off the end...one of them hooked a shark rod and the other boat cut another shark rod off (cut off $200+ or braid and shark gear), the guy dropped his lines for them, if he hadn't they very easily could have been beheaded as they hit the braid at 30+mph..they flicked us off as we yelled for them to give us space.. There are lines run out almost a 1000yards off bob hall most of the time, do not run close to bob hall in your PB! its illegal and extremely dangerous for you..believe me the sharkys will remember your boat, and you could very possibly be made to pay for hundreds of dollars worth of gear(have heard of a $1400 dollar check being written to the sharkys so they wouldn't destroy the guys boat who cut them off when they found it parked at a local motel.. or you could even come to physical harm..i have heard story's...basically do not run near Bob hall in any vessel other than a non motorized kayak.
In this paragraph you speak of damaging boats and possibly physical harm which has nothing to do with a fun day out with the family. What you will find is a boater at 100 yards of the pier is legal. Sharkers may not like it but they do not have legal grounds to justify damaging a boat or physical harm.
Paddling out baits is not breaking a law or ordinance but that doesnt expand your barrier to keep boaters farther away. It is however against pier rules or ordinance to lower a kayaker off the pier on a foot rope, I see this done often. Surf fishermen run the same risks. Boaters are not held to boundaries outside the surf. |
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ironmanstan Exalted Ruler of Flour Bluff

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Gosh would somebody please call the waaa-bulance. _________________ I LIKE MINE FRIED. |
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topdog15 Full Grown Flour Bluffian

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| ironmanstan wrote: | | Gosh would somebody please call the waaa-bulance. |
Careful bud, the "Sharkys" may come wreck on your boat if you're not careful.
They once extorted $1400 from a guy in a parking lot in exchange for not tearing up his boat.
This stuff is laughable. _________________ "Ya'll must eat a lot of fish" |
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