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john's addicted · Horse Mullet Joined: 15 Feb 2011 Posts: 171

2 cents well spent itorna... "niche"...
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fnG · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:13 am Post subject:

stupid question...

has anyone ever seen a turtle on the beach with tire tracks on it?? Laughing

i did my first clean up this past year and i'll gladly pick up the slack all the years to come.

FIDO · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:28 am Post subject:

Ol Sanch · Flour Bluffian in training Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 320

I sure wish we could get rid of Joe.
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kweber · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:25 pm Post subject:

jc · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:59 pm Post subject:

there is no doubt that the turtle's demise is because of man but THATS not the issue

the issue for me is the fact that the future of the turtles is in NO WAY impacted by a 10mph speed limit reduction, at least not that I can see

However, there is a discernible impact for the casual user like myself... even if more of an inconvenience it takes a lot more time to drive down the beach where I like to camp/fish... the math is simple, with about 125 more highway miles (and about an extra hr of total drive time) I can simply go to the northern end of SPI where I don't have to deal with the extra layers of law enforcement that only bring me grief, no benefit...

I wrote a nice long email to the park and expessed this sentiment and informed them that instead of Yarbrough Pass in late April we will be going to Goose Island State Park... and we will go to SPI in the summer and no longer purchase the yearly pass for PINS... not that they care

and for the record... if you get tagged for 25mph speed in the 15 mph zone down island during nesting season the fine is $75, or was during the summer of 2010... if you give them enough grief over it they will make it go away for $25 before actually having to send a federal marshall after you to serve a warrant

jc

TeamMorningWood · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject:

Wow, boycotting the beach and clean-up? We are lucky to get to the beach 3-4 times a year...on a good year. We wouldn't let even a 5mph speed limit prevent us from enjoying PINS.

Curious what the ratio is of locals vs out of towners that visit that stretch of beach.
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ChuBri · Pony Mullet Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 53

Ok, let me ask this. If it does eventually come to a year round closure, will you all still go clean up the beach if they allow one day annually just for it?

Bigrock · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:49 pm Post subject:

The Trash Heap · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:31 am Post subject:

CastnBlast · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:24 am Post subject:

I agree with Trash Heap - If you question whether the feds are up to something take a look at what happened on the outer banks. Access was almost completely blocked. This has to be watched very carefully. We all know the Obama Admin has it out for outdoorsman in the name so called conservation. The fact is that (and this is fact from Fish and Wildlife) that all the nesting turtles could be wiped out on PINS and it would not have any effect on the population. Furthermore, given this, I'm outraged that we know this information, and yet the feds continue to pump millions into this program that has seen only small growth in populations. Given our deficit situation, I call this wastefull spending. period. I wonder how many other programs we are wasting money on like this? Anyway, enough of my rant, but I completely agree with Trash Heap and I'm still in conversations with our congressman about this, and will continue to stay on top of it.

BTW, the Convention and Visitor's bureau has some intersting stats I don't have readily available on outside tourism that PINS brings in. Problem is that the Feds use it to their benefit and claim the visitors are there for the turtle program. many are, but many are not. I know for a fact even if every visitor that came to the park came for the turtle program, that it would still not justify the $$$ they are spending for less than 200 nests state wide.

Trash Heap - do you readily have available the number of nesting females there were on PINS? I want to say it was something like 60 or so.
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Towboat Trash · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:36 am Post subject:

Couldn't have it said it better cast-n-blast...
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The Trash Heap · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:41 pm Post subject:

HsBnAtty · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:50 pm Post subject:

The Trash Heap is correct in his criticism of the EA. It is highly biased and intentionally ignores relevant data. Nowhere does it even mention that the turtles nesting at PINS are less than six tenths of 1% of the turtles nesting in Mexico, that the species will be down listed to threatened in 2 or 3 years or that the US fish and Wildlife Service has previously stated that all of the turtles nesting at PINS could be destroyed and it would not endanger the worldwide recovery effort of the species. This EA should be legally challenged, but CAC does not have the requisite funding to do so and no other charities claiming to protect fishing rights will do so apparently because this restriction on use involves "access rights". If this EA is allowed to stand, you should anticipate more and more restrictions on access rights at PINS since the lack of a legal challenge to the EA will signal to the Park that the fishing community will not or cannot effectively challenge its future actions restricting or impeding visitors' access rights.

As more access restrictions are imposed at PINS, fewer and fewer fishermen will travel down PINS and ultimately fewer will participate in the beach cleanup. Before that happens maybe it should be moved to the Fish Pass area or Brokenback Beach since more and more of us will be fishing those areas instead.

Rebecca of Sunnybrookfarm · Full Grown Flour Bluffian Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 3974

wait a stitch, how did they finalize the EA when Farenhold supposedly had that funding blocked?

I thought they weren't supposed to spend any more money on that EA?

what happened? they finish it "for free" so they could get their cause furthered?
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