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[Ro Man]

I looked for Big John's post on trout around sargassum, but could not find it here or on Nick's board. Anybody got any advice? I will be on PINS in 3 weeks and will be after shark. If the weed is still real bad I would like to try for some trout. Also just for future what size and kind of wire do u use for smacks. Thanks for the help.

Ro Man

[Big John]

see new to surf post for my redifsh, shark leader technique

for trout, work weedless jigs and 3/4 oz poons around the sargassum edges, and under heavy mats

swap the treble hook out for a 5-0 or 6-0 circle hook or wide gap croaker hook with the point side facing the convex side of the spoon (the outside). One thing I forgot on that one is you can also use a 3-0 swivel clip to attach the hook and get better action out of the spoon.

Good luck and tight lines!
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[kweber]

here's the post,, Actually, I frequently do this.

One great reason is better hook-up rates, and less weeds.

With mirro-lures and similar double treble hooked lures, I frequently remove the first hook, and replce with a 4-0 circle hook and replace the back hook with a 5-0 j-hook, or a 3-0 wide gap hook, where the point faces the rear and is pushed up when being pulled. This allows me to work these lures through sargassum and other seaweeds without as much weed by catch, and produces a good hook-up ratio.

I also replace the trable hook on my sppons with a 2-0 or 3-0 wide gap hook when fishing sargassum for the same reason, and better hook-ups. The small trebles don't catch enough "meat" to keep a speck from shaking loose. The wide gap stays put much better.

I know, your saying, buy the weedless, and I have, but you loose more fish using these, because the whole lure has to get into their mouth and positioned such that the hook, not the spoon runs against the fishes mouth.

Replacing the treble picks up more fish, as they don't have to take the whole lure, just tap the back end, and there is no hook versus lure placement releases.

Another good reason is that tougher fish, such as jacks, will pull factory hooks straight, where a heavy duty hook will hold up better.

Other good reasons are just what you mentioned, saltwater resistance. A little rust or oxidation is all it takes to dull down your hook enough that you miss hits. Severe rust will lead to break-offs at the hook.

Hope that helps!
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[kweber]

the prievious post of mine is from Big John's post on lure's. I want to clarify that, in case it is mistaken as mine. Big John was kind enough to answer a PM I sent him yesterday reguarding a simular question. thanx for info, Big John, as I hope to use it soon! Kurt.

[Ro Man]

Thanks guys. I don't usually use spoons with trebles. I buy the spoons with the single hooke attached to the body. Works well for the flats for reds and have caught one speck. Will do some experimenting when I am down at end of april. Will be in white jeep wrangler with wood/pvc rod racks on front bumper. If u see my stop by and have a beer. Thanks

Ro Man

[crab_n_fisher]

This post has been very informative to me. It should be a sticky! LOL ... I've slaughtered thousands of White and Striped Bass in my time -- always using treble hooks. And I know how easy the trebles will "pull" through. What a great thread, folks. I've never, ever changed out the trebs for a single hook. Will try it soon.

Now, how do we solve the "papermouth" problem with Crappie? I use single hooks for 'em!

[crab_n_fisher]

Ro Man,

Do you use the spoons with that pink "skirt" to it? As a purist, I've always ripped it off the lure. I prefer my bait to look as natural as possible....Am i doing something wrong?

[kweber]

most use a skirt or bucktail hook on spoons as an extra attractor. the little pink tab with some spoons are preferred by some also. I have used the spinnerbait skirts on spoons also, although the large skirt makes the spoon retrieve very shallow, but lets you work the spoon slowly w/out going too deep. Kurt.

[crab_n_fisher]

thanks, kweber....but i'm not into gay trout LOL

[Ro Man]

Crab n Fisher.

I usually fish a gold spoon by it's self. Though last year in october in POC I caught just as many reds with the very end of a cochaho (hope that is right spelling) shimp (white with chartreuse tail), maybe 3/4 inch. Slowed my retrieve and had good action. Caught fish both ways from daybreak to 4pm. Could have been lucky or the fish were just hungry. Very shallow water from 18inches to 6inches. No rod movement action of spoon.

Ro Man

[kyle]

[quote="crab_n_fisher"]thanks, kweber....but i'm not into gay trout LOL[/quote]




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[Big John]

[quote="crab_n_fisher"]Ro Man,

Do you use the spoons with that pink "skirt" to it? As a purist, I've always ripped it off the lure. I prefer my bait to look as natural as possible....Am i doing something wrong?[/quote]

Nope, the first thing I do is rip that little pink skirt off too. It does not seem to help catch fish at all. I have tried it with both of the pink things t hat come with them, and without, and I get better results without.

In cloudy water, I get better results with half a fishing strip on the hook.

Spoons are best used in clear water on sunny days. That way the spinning motion puts of lots of light reflections that simulated changing light reflections off of a bait fish.

AND who gives a rat's but if a trout is gay or whatever, they all eat good!

tight lines!
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[kyle]

i beg to differ about the pink skirt issue, i have used spoons with and without the pink skirt in the area around kates hole and other areas on the backside of the island, initially i had always removed the pink skirting and often had little luck, upon recommendation by cckayaker to use the spoons with the skirting my success rate with spoons improved greatly, i also passed this info on to others who have had the same results as myself, as far as how a trout which chooses to bite one of these spoons can be labeled as gay im clueless, matter of fact im pretty much clueless as to how you can determine if the trout you caught is gay or not and really dont care to ever learn
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[kweber]

never gave to much thought on their sexual affiliation as long as they'd let me "pick them up!" Kurt.