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hrb2be
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: Man O War Reply with quote

Pretty cool short video:
http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=722250
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landlocked beachbum
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing.................. and I mean NOTHING new there!!!!! Just like tar balls, always been that way and will always be that way.

As to the "meat tenderizer", I can attest from much first hand experience that NOTHING but lots of agony and what seems like days of time will relieves the pain, if you're lucky. In reality, even a bad sting usually lasts no more than an hour or so, but if you happen to be one of those who are really sensitive you can go into anaphylaxis, and that ain't good!!!!! Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear lots of rum helps. I have heard to pour it on the affected area, but I would suggest pouring it in your mouth.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone should do an experiment and fill us all in on the effects................

Then again, I think that you'd just wind up drunk.................. with a VERY agonizing sting!!!! Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Treat them as you would a honey bee sting. Scrape the "harpoons" off with a credit card/drivers license, or dull knife blade. (who has one of those?) Do not use vinegar as you would on a jelly fish sting. This magnifies the pain of a man-o-war!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's time for Tyler to repost the infamous video from a few weeks back. Seems like it would relate to this thread Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meat tenderizer definitely doesn't work. Hot water applied for a while helps. The drug store sells something for this type of sting, but fortunately I haven't had to try it yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Medic6, the quotation at the bottom of your post is what I've been trying to get through to my wife for 21 years!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Rolling Eyes Embarassed

She's a great gal and smart as a whip, but men and women don't speak the same language!

To your credit card thingy: I've had many experiences with unwrapping myself from Mon O War tentacles. Once they hit you but then you remove the tentacle, the damage is done. Only time will do much good. Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get stung my a Man o'war, do not rinse it with fresh water. Reports I've read say the fresh water causes all the nematocysts to fire at once, and you will be injured worse. Just rinse with salt water.

Around the world, it's common advice to urinate on the sting. Shocked The idea is that the warmth of the urine can destroy the protiens in the sting. Your call, but after being stung you might be in enough pain to ask whoever's handy on the beach to pee on you. Just make sure they limit themselves to the stung area. Surprised

My advice: avoid this little animal at all costs. That way you're available for pee duty, if the call should come.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had one wrap around my torso and it left scabs. The glands under my armpits swelled up for days. Not very fun at all but recoverd 100%. A few years ago on the 4th of July we were at the beach with a group of freinds and there were small jellies all over. I was wadefishing and getting stung quite a bit but dealt with it. A little later that day something hit me in the back. It was a small clear jelly about the size of a quarter. I was down for days from that sting. I still have the scar and went to the doctor for numerous injections. My love handle swelled up the size of a football for over a month and that was before I had love handles. Very Happy My wife still calls the scar my jelly belly.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

landlocked beachbum wrote:
To your credit card thingy: I've had many experiences with unwrapping myself from Mon O War tentacles. Once they hit you but then you remove the tentacle, the damage is done. Only time will do much good.


Are you saying that once the tentacle touches you it can't sting again? My experience says otherwise. As long as there are nematocysts that have not "fired", the tentacle can still cause problems. I know because I got hit on the calf. I was stupid enough to use my bare hand to pull two tentacles off and then my hand got hit. Stupid me...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DUDE.................... you must be at least slightly allergic, if there is such a thing!!!! I have related here before about one day surfing in Hawaii and having a small M O W wash up and come to rest on the back of my knee. I'll not tell the whole story again, but although the pain there was excruciating, the lymph nodes in my groin felt like they would explode!!!!!

Luckily, and as I said, it was all over for me at least within an hour or maybe a little longer with no scars and no lasting effects. If I had the type of reaction that you do, I'd be hard pressed to EVER get into salt water in a known M O W zone, not to mention Box Jellyfish!!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_jellyfish
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

landlocked beachbum: You did not answer the question, instead you assumed I had a violent reaction to a minor MOW sting. I had no scars or lasting effects from the situation I described. Actually, it happened while fishing the surf...and after cleaning my leg and hands, I went back to fishing...in less than 1/2 an hour.

So, let me ask again...stay focussed....
Were you saying that once the tentacle touches you it can't sting again?

Because if you believe that, you are incorrect. It all depends on if all the Nematocycts fire. With how many can reside on a single tentacle, I doubt that happens. BTW, I do not have any allergies to insects/animals/etc...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man....................... why are you getting bent out of shape and (seemingly) taking this personally? I wasn't even talking to you, as your post hadn't been submitted when I started writing back to ROBDOG! All you have to do is read his post and make the connection........................

I'm not a college boy as you sound to be with your "stay focused" attempted dis, but one doesn't need a Ph. D to be able to read and/or to have life experience. I said nothing even remotely related to "once the tentacle touches you it can't sting again?", I don't even know where or how you came up with that! Reading books as a kid taught me about Man O Wars, Nematocysts and such, and even if I'd not known this, having many more than a few encounters in Hawaii surely did!!!! Cool Wink

To be clear, I never said that a tentacle that was removed couldn't still sting. I said "Once they hit you but then you remove the tentacle, the damage is done", and that is totally accurate IF YOU'VE REALLY REMOVED ALL OF THE TENTACLE(S)!!!! Sure the same tentacle(s) that you just removed can wash over you again and still have un"shot" Nematocysts, but that's a whole different issue, and NOT what I said or was even referring to.

On the credit card thingy again: who says that any of us will have a credit card or knife handy when stung? Even if you do have such in the vehicle, taking the time to wade/swim/paddle back in and then do something only results in more stings and the possibility of the tentacle(s) wrapping you up even MORE!!!! That being the case, if one is smart and wants to limit the damage to what's already happened, there's no other option than to remove said tentacle(s) by hand ASAP! Getting a few strings in one's fingers or hands is far better than having feet or TENS of feet of still stinging tentacles wrapped around you!!!!! Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I had posted, it is a matter of removing the "harpoons". That would be after getting unwrapped of the tentacles and getting back on dry land. As they do continue to inject venom. And I have never had one get in my kayak, unless I turtled. Wink
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