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Dorado · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject:

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Franklin · Horse Mullet Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Posts: 116

http://www.americanboating.org/pfd2.asp

"The concept of "readily accessible" confuses many boaters. We in the Coast Guard Auxiliary know this to be true, because we find life jackets in the strangest of places when we conduct a Vessel Safety Check (VSC). Readily accessible means that you can instantly locate, remove, distribute and don your PFD's in the fastest time possible.

Obviously the Coast Guard Auxiliary, as well as the Coast Guard and most of the major recreational boating safety organizations, would prefer everyone to wear the PFD at all times while you are underway, thus eliminating the need fro this entire discussion. But, since less than one out of four adult boaters actually wear their PFDs while underway, the law requires that your life jacket be readily accessible, in order to comply with the regulations.

What is considered readily accessible? That concept is often best explained by looking at examples of what is considered not readily accessible. A PFD is not considered readily accessible when stored in the bottom of a locker, or kept in its original plastic bag, or left down in the bilge, where it can become partially destroyed by lack of proper care."

Dorado · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:53 pm Post subject:

....when stored in the bottom of a locker, or kept in its original plastic bag, or left down in the bilge, In a kayak dude! I an't got no bilge! lol

Again, for kayaker's...stupid law! It should have stated that we (kayakers) are required to wear...otherwise, what good does it do?
Back to the $$$ thing...
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Franklin · Horse Mullet Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Posts: 116

i guess you could make things overly complicated and write a law for each specific type of boat, or just the one. i don't tend to think wardens or other cops write tickets because they have a strong desire to generate money for wherever the money goes. i do think some do it cuz they are aholes but more often than not it is because they generally want the law to be abided by because it is a safety concern and they have to clean up the particular mess when stuff goes wrong and it could have been avoided. as in the pfd case, most people who drowned arent wearing it and didn't have time to grab it out of the hatch, compartment, etc. i tend to think they should just make it simple and require it to be worn...period. but, you know, opinions...everyone has one.

if the tickets are all messed up, go to court and see if it gets kicked...how much is a pfd ticket?

Dorado · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:38 am Post subject:

So, I have a question...why is there not a law that requires surfers to wear lifejackets? Growing up, I surfed, from the age of 11, never wore a lifejacket, I was in a lot worse conditions than I am now in a kayak. Now, a GW comes up to me in the flats (last month), knee deep water, doesn't ask for fishin lic. just if I have a LJ...had neither! lol Said, my kayak is my lifejacket, Nope, she said...need a lifejacket, again, stupid law....

Honestly, I think the problem is too much government in our daily lives...
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Franklin · Horse Mullet Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Posts: 116

not so much too much government...but people getting themselves in trouble then they expect someone to be there to save them. therefore, rules are made to lessen the likelyhood they will get themselves into trouble.

maybe paddled boats shouldn't need a life jacket...lobby for the change

but in the mean time...how much is a no pfd ticket?

Dorado · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:07 am Post subject:

...well, maybe a better way is if someone has to be "saved" they get charged for it, make them pay, not make everyone pay in the form of another law! Ya know, there are soooo many laws out there now that when I walk out my door, chances are, I am a criminal with out even doing anything (criminal with respect to breaking some law). Ya know, I was out just this morning breaking a law Im sure, paddling to my fishing hole just before dawn without a light, thinking of the old days when the indians who inhabited this land would do the same thing...without lifejackets!!!

Don't ya think at some point enough is enough????
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rabbit · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:07 am Post subject:

I think the ticket for no PFD is 150.00. Been and done that. Very Happy

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fishinglady · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:49 am Post subject:

I have been stopped/checked several times by game wardens and Coast Guard over the last few years, and they have always been friendly, professional, and courteous.

If he couldn't see your light, then a boater wouldn't have seen it either. I would never get over it if I accidentally ran down another boat or a kayak and hurt someone, even if they were at fault for not having a visible light. So follow the rules for others, even if you aren't willing to do it for your own safety.

I have twice almost hit a fellow fisherman with a lure when I threw off my deck at night. One was in a kayak and one was in a power boat; neither had a visible light, so I hadn't seen them, but both cursed me for almost hitting them. They cursed me even more when I responded that I was sorry, but that it wouldn't have happened if they had been following Coast Guard rules and had a visible light.

BALZTOWAL · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:18 am Post subject:

A lot of fishermen fish at night and run power boats. The last thing you and your group want is a boat coming and not able to see you and when you do get run over and get knocked in the head hopefully your jacket will keep your head above water. These rules are there to try to keep fishing safe and I would be happy this Warden gave your group some breaks.

captmike · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:25 am Post subject:

I have 4 pole lights for kayaks and some nice used kayak life jackets that need a new home.
361-438-1866 before 7 pm

Dorado · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:18 am Post subject:

fishinglady,,,I DO follow the rules, yesterday was in water a boat would not have come into, especially before sun up! I just think there are too many rules, thats all I am sayin here.
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Dorado · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject:

True, I was breaking the law, but was not aware I was, was unaware of the PDF law (my fault) and the fishin lic. was sitting at the house on dinning room table.. Chalk it up to ignorance and forgetfullness on my part
Went the next day to Acadamy and purchased PDF. Thankfully the GW was nice and she just gave a warning. I really do try to play by the rules. The more rules though, the greater the chance one will be broken, not intentionally...
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FoldCatOne · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:33 pm Post subject:

I wish they would let me use a strobe light as my kayak 360 light. I don't think I can be seen too well, and having been run over by a VW van in a crosswalk 21 years ago, I really don't feel like giving a power boat the same chance. I dodged a bullet once (sort of) why try for twice??