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[Tyler]

Yes but in Billy's scenario,black terns aren't running into windows or buildings or falling to house cats but likely will be attracted by the bait into the path of the windmills.

[ironmanstan]

I have to hang stuff on my windows to keep the birds from hitting them.
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[topdog15]

[landlocked beachbum]

Bighead, you almost got it all right.............................. there's plenty of energy right here at home if we are just allowed to go get it!!!!!!!!

Uncle D, X 100 dude!!!!!!
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits". Albert Einstein

[Central Scrutinizer]

[rabbit]

I wonder how all the birds survived in the Netherlands with all the windmills they had to grind their flour.
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[topdog15]

[Tyler]

[seanu21]

So a few questions (because I truly don't know, not trying to stir anything up)

1: Was this big a fight put up when they erected the wind turbines on the mainland that you can see from the dunes starting around the 20mm or so (If I rem correctly, it may be further towards the 30mm, but I'm pretty sure you can see them well from Yarborough Pass)?

2: If not, what would it matter if there were windmills 10 miles off shore when there are windmills across the Laguna from PINS? Do the birds only land on PINS and miss the mainland? Or we don't care about those because they are behind the dunes and harder to see while looking out at the ocean? Beautiful sunrise with no windmills but who cares about the sunset type of thing?

3: If there was a fight and they were obviously still erected, they have been there for a while now, what is the data that is being collected as far as mortality rates\cost of upkeep\taxpayer contribution showing? Or is that data not being kept and provided to the public?

4: How about the wind farm out on 37\188. Data for inland mortality rates\cost of upkeep being provided to anyone?

5: Most probably won't care about this but I hunt in KS every year for Pheasant thanks to a good friend. We hunt Western KS, all public ground (there is so much public land up there it makes TX public hunt land a joke). Anyway, point of the story is I started asking about the massive wind farm they have, http://www.kansastravel.org/smokeyhillwindfarm.htm , since I was in awe of the scale. Apparently they had the same issues, not with migrating birds but with local prairie chickens and habitat loss. If you care to read, here is a link to a study that was performed. http://www.audubonofkansas.org/Wind/robelstudy1.html

I can't 100% say I'm mad about the wildlife they take because everything we do to produce energy hurts wildlife it seems. Take the KS thing out of it because I know "that's not the coast, not the same thing" or whatever, I just added it to show that these things don't just affect us. The other questions are not me being a smart ***, I just truly don't know the answers but am curious as to what data can be provided from the existing to provide hard proof so I don't have to read through all the name calling. In my simple mind, it seems like the closest thing outside of (using the explanation of a scientist previously mentioned) setting it up and seeing what happens would be to use numbers from an already active wind farm fairly close but not exactly the same thing, it could provide reasonable numbers to expect? Again, I know not the same thing since it's inshore and the birds are chasing bait offshore so less chance of them hitting anything but name calling, finger pointing and throwing around non-fact based numbers is not working. Unless I missed something.

I, personally, am against them because I don't like the thought of them being anywhere near where I spend almost all of my fishing time, because I am selfish and don't want to look at them. Also, whoever came up with the idea of creating something that loses money and that difference is paid for by someone else is a genius.

Thanks
Sean

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[johnso]

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[topdog15]

[Bighead]

Here's my question...if the EPA/Federal government will hit oil and gas producing companies with massive fines when they kill bird via spills and what not...are they going to do the same to the wind farms when they start killing birds?

FYI...Texas IS the Saudi Arabia of natural gas...yet we don't use it to its near potential...it could be used for any and everything, and yet we don't.

The way I see it...instead of almost a trillion dollars going to the 'stimulus bill'...we could have built two nuke plants in every state...that would require hundreds, if not thousands of people to build it, run it, maintain it, and produce energy that does not require us to deal with the likes of Hugo Chavez, Quadaffi (good riddance) and the Kind of Saudi Arabia...and then we start using NG and LNG systems for stuff...and THEN we keep exploring solar, wind, and water power...but no...we don't do that.

I love Americans...we're the most innovative and creative people ever...but MAN we do some dumb $***!

Bighead
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[sandollar_sa]

"Do some birds die from wind farms? I'm sure they do. Does it matter in any population? I would guess not, plus the fact that survival of the fittest means that those who have close calls and survive are the ones that pass on their smarter genes to the next generations and those who don't are removed from said gene pool, making whole populations smarter/more aware of a certain danger. " -Landlocked Beachbum

Found this looking for info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtgBWNKwBkE

Also this WRT wind stuff specific to Texas (including one re Corpus)

http://www.windaction.org/news/c48/

"windfarm failure" on Goggle gets quite a few hits, but many are things in Europe.

Great replies in that discussion!