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HELP -- Port Mansfield Cut

 
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Skoalman
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:48 am    Post subject: HELP -- Port Mansfield Cut Reply with quote

Need some help from some of the beach regulars: I have been to the jetties several times from the PINS side down to the cut. Never been up from the South Padre side. Appriximately how far from the park to the jetties? It can't be 60 miles, can it???? Are the driving conditions similar to PINS? Worse/better? I will be in South Padre from June 26th to July 1st and expect to be on the sand every day. "Oh Lord, please deliver me from Houston"....... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only about 35 miles, driving is usually better.
Good luck,

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck to you Skoalman. I have an Uncle in Crosby and might be moving up that way too soon. Looking foreward to a report when you get off the sand.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject: Mansfield Reply with quote

Thanks for the info. Vern, if you do make your way up here, drop me a line. I have a beach house on Bolivar and try to make it down there at least every other weekend. I need a good wade fishing buddy as my wife has seen "Jaws" waaaay to many times to get in the water, LOL.
That way, if you do come fishing with me, I can have a witness that, indeed, there are people from Houston and Galveston that do idiotic stuff on the beach....... Very Happy
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Zano
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP -- Port Mansfield Cut Reply with quote

Skoalman wrote:
Need some help from some of the beach regulars: I have been to the jetties several times from the PINS side down to the cut. Never been up from the South Padre side. Appriximately how far from the park to the jetties? It can't be 60 miles, can it???? Are the driving conditions similar to PINS? Worse/better? I will be in South Padre from June 26th to July 1st and expect to be on the sand every day. "Oh Lord, please deliver me from Houston"....... Very Happy


Hey Skoalman,
Once you get off the pavement (at Beach Exit #6), it's only about 27 miles on the sand to the south jettie. I recommend you do not drive to the end of the pavement 4 miles further down the hiway, there's no beach access road there and crossing the dunes can be torturous. Once on the sand, (starting from Beach Access #6 as a reference point), you should come across a series of "points" with fade out guts on the S side of each, and head pools on the N side of each, starting at about 4 miles and continuing every 1/5 mile or so. These are good spots to hit, espeically if the tide is moving. You'll hit another series of points at about 10 miles. Also, watch for where the High Bluff ends about there also. You'll know it because the Bluff dramatically ends into a horizon of duneless flat powdery sand. The wade & first gut in front of the end of the Bluff are close in and very fishable. Much success there with trout. Driving up to the jetties can be excellent on low tide, not many perils on high tide, nothing like Big Shell. When fishing the south jettie concentrate on the surf side toward the end. Expect trout, snook & tarpon if the water cooperates clarity wise. The channel can be really good off the end as well for tarpon. If you see them rolling, cast beyond them and let your lure sink 6' or more. Don't work it back so fast as to make it rise quickly. Also, a live mullet, "free lined" will get you the most hookups on the larger tarpon, which are below the smaller ones (3' - 5') you see working the surface. Have fun, but watch the rocks, they're precarious. -Zano
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyones already given you all the info you need but I'd like to say-
Low Tide, Low Tide, Low Tide.
Not as big an issue in summer but when you pass the Narrows(you'll know it when you get there)it sure can make a difference.

By the way, Give Kay Baily Hutchinson a call and ask why we are going to neglet the pass at Mansfield and let a town die while we blow money on a pass in Corpus that most large boats can't use because of the low bridge.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

actualy it 27 miles from access 6 im from brownsville.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Mansfield Reply with quote

Skoalman wrote:
Thanks for the info. Vern, if you do make your way up here, drop me a line. I have a beach house on Bolivar and try to make it down there at least every other weekend. I need a good wade fishing buddy as my wife has seen "Jaws" waaaay to many times to get in the water, LOL.
That way, if you do come fishing with me, I can have a witness that, indeed, there are people from Houston and Galveston that do idiotic stuff on the beach....... Very Happy




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Big John
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

putawaywet wrote:
Everyones already given you all the info you need but I'd like to say-
Low Tide, Low Tide, Low Tide.
Not as big an issue in summer but when you pass the Narrows(you'll know it when you get there)it sure can make a difference.

By the way, Give Kay Baily Hutchinson a call and ask why we are going to neglet the pass at Mansfield and let a town die while we blow money on a pass in Corpus that most large boats can't use because of the low bridge.


I don't want to start a firefight or pi##ing constest here, but we are not blowing money on a pass, we are reopening a natural pass that silted in because we dug that ICW. Reopening it will be a boon to the ecology of the upper laguna.

I understand that your frustrated with the discontinuation of the dredging at Port Mans. I am on your side on this, and think they should continue dredging it. Both for the economy of the area and the ecology of the laguana.

However, it is not a good way to approach by degrading a project many of your supporters from this area find a valuable.

It isn't right to justify your arguement by saying that ours is a waste of money.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corp of engineers is not allowed to dredge because the dredge companys dont want them to take away their money. Packery is a private operation and will be maintained by the property owners.
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putawaywet
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should have been more clear.A little kneejerk on my part.
I'm am totaly for the reopening of Packery but I'm outraged by the neglect of the pass in Mansfield.

BTW-Tax dollars are paying for Packery.USACE get bids and contracts out the dredging to private contractors.
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Additional monies fully cover project
By Tara Copp Scripps Howard News Service
June 17, 2005


WASHINGTON - Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison said Thursday she was able to get the Senate Appropriations Committee to approve nearly $5.5 million in funding for the Packery Channel dredging project.

The additional funding will fully cover the project, which is more than 85 percent complete, said Tom Utter, special assistant to the Corpus Christi city manager.

"This money, if it goes through, will be used to finish up the project," Utter said.

The Senate's 2006 Energy and Water Appropriations Bill contains $5.438 million for Packery Channel. As has been the case since the project kicked off in the 2001 energy and water bill, no funding for Packery was included in the president's budget.

Instead, through her seat on the Senate energy and water development appropriations subcommittee, Hutchison has successively inserted $17.4 million into Congress' annual funding bills to complete Packery's dredging. In 2004, the project also received $900,000 in redirected funds from other Army Corps of Engineers projects when it ran out of money before the next fiscal year began.

The Packery Channel dredging project, which is run by the Corps of Engineers, also serves as a flood control and preservation effort for north Padre Island, by using the dredged sand to shore up the coastline.

"These funds will help to preserve Texas' bays and estuaries, while providing environmental benefits including beach nourishment," Hutchison said. "The Senate's support of this project will help ensure tourism, recreation and numerous industries will continue to thrive along the coast."

The channel, which at one point was ahead of schedule, is now a month behind the projected completion date of August 2005, said City Councilman Mark Scott.

Scott said the construction is scheduled to be finished in September, after officials decided to add a boat ramp to the channel plans. The ramp will be funded by a $500,000 grant from the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, he said.

The funding must now be approved by the whole Senate and the House, before being sent to the president for his signature.
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