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crab_n_fisher · Last edited by crab_n_fisher on Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:47 pm; edited 1 time in total

http://cgi.ebay.com/Working-Cruise-Trip-Aboard-Shrimp-Fishing-Boat_W0QQitemZ7219154868QQcategoryZ23822QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Please scroll down and look at the by-catch in the picture, top right-hand side of the "gallery." CCA would be so proud when it compares two and a half buckets of shrimp to 30 lbs of, to what is visible, and apparently, live game fingerlings, or simply bait fish. I await their responses!

That is a lot of money to go on a shrimp trip! Just offer your labor and I bet seven out of ten captains would freely patronize your services and welcome you aboard their vessel(s).... Then again, what about liability waivers vs insurance forms? (Just like construction work, especially among mom-and-pop small time operations, wherein waiver forms are the norm!)

Hmmmm.....
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Big John · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:17 pm Post subject:

Love that pic of the tourist holding up a hardhead by the tail like a trophy! Whoo-wee!
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Guest · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject:

scroll down to the bottom left picture column picture. It's the third one down. The uglielst "oversized" red i've seen in my life! LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Laughing

rabbit · Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:37 am Post subject:

Lot of fish laying on the deck. Sad

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Guest · Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject:

Anyone notice all the dead fish behind that Big Red?! ....The crew seem too darn-blasted happy to show-case a probable by-catch of a "trophy" while thousands of her hatchlings flutter and suffocate in the background! LOL

Guest · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject:

that's normal. i spent 3 months on a shrimp boat in 92 and we prolly washed several tons of dead fish off the deck for the sharks and tuna to feed on

crab_n_fisher

I can understand why the ebay shrimpers have offered trips, to help offset the expenses (higher fuel costs and fighting the declining prices of U.S. caught shrimp vs cheaper import "free trade" foreign shrimp -- in vain attempts to suppliment their overall income!).

My point was meant to spark a debate on the subject; and one guest may have a great point I didn't think about. Via sweeping overboard tons of dead, fresh and edible fish , he and his tribe of shrimpers are succumbing to the predators who follow such boats in anticipiaton of a a free, effortless meal....In other words, shrimpers show the CCA are PETA-like, extremist activists, doomsayers, and not willing to admit that by-catch is actually a "free ride," to save the fish time to find their prey once swept overboard? ....

Listen, I'm not hear to "troll" or start a flame war, but to countenance your point, not to further exacerbate my own silly comments/questions. BTW, your reply was excellent. My time is limited, and was willing to take a short-cut to the topic with my queries. But doesn't the CCA explain how shrimping has slaughtered the Red Snapper population?

Twenty and two score years ago, I took a 20 foot seine net into the laguna madre, and helped my friend Arnold to get bait shrimp ....For every shrimp we caught, we raked up lots of tiny crabs and a gazillion little fish -- some the similar size of freshwater neons at 3/8 th of an inch (those with fish tanks know of 'em!)! .....While on shore, it'd take up to a few minutes to pick through the net to get to the shrimp, letting the exposed by-catch breath fresh air for a change instead of snorting yucky salt water! .....It was all we cared about -- and who cared about the "minnows". It was such an emotional, adrenaline-charged "high" to get free shrimp versus having to pay 8 cents a piece for a live one from the bait shop just over the overpass! (Kennedy Causeway? It was off S.P.I.D.).... LOL....(my, have times changed!) ....Granted, I was 10 years old at the time, and this whole episode in my life reverberates in comparison to shrimp boaters more than thrice my senior in that day and time!

I even know that some make the leaps and bounds in logic, or so its claimed, that we do not have massive croaker runs like we did back in the 1970s -- and the alleged blame is due to shrimpers! Why? Ask any paranoid speckled trout fisherman why he doesn't use "bait croaker-- other than the usual claim of
'em being "deadly catchers." There is another reason, folks! (Come on, I once read an unsubstantiated article that every part of Galveston Bay is dredged by shrimpers at least eight times per year? :O) And that croakers are a big part of the by-catch and are left dead on the deck for "hungry fish to eat once kicked overboard."

I am puzzled, and certainly not a marine biologist. I often think out loud; and I am prone to sometimes question myself, of what I believe and if its true!
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crab_n_fisher · Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject:

CCA claimed, that for every pound of dredged of ocean floor shrimp, somthing like 4.5 lbs of live fish (bait and game) were culled....Looking up the article now....
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crab_n_fisher · Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject:

I must get to bed, and not let this post consume me .....but hopefully a feller CCA member can fill you in .....or just "google" it.
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crab_n_fisher · Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2006-05,GGLG:en&q=cca+bycatch+shrimp&spell=1
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RodBreaker · Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:51 pm Post subject:

crab_n_fisher · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:04 am Post subject:

"We don't need no education".......yes, you do, because you used double negatives...
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Big John · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:37 am Post subject:

Hey now, don't be dissing Pink Floyd. Its style and lyrics, the style gets people to listen and the lyrics give them something to identify with, and keep them listening.

The "We don't need no education" was aimed more at the government propoganda being dispatched by the Nazi forces. They do not need their teachers telling them this propoganda.

Anyway - I don't think there is anything wrong with these shrimpers trying to make a little extra dough, but I think anyone who would pay to take a shrimp boat cruise is insane.
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CCKAYAKER · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject:

The shrimp boat mentioned in the pic is an offshore boat of course but growing up in FB I my first experience on the water was pushing up live shrimp in a push net for Red Coburns Marina at the end of carribean st. for a penny a piece. I then worked deckhand on the Casey Ann boat when we were allowed to shrimp the ICW 25 yrs ago. (not sure if it's still legal there or not) Anyhow, that was to this day the toughest job I have ever had and I have worked all phases of construction and now 42 yrs old. If anyone pays for that trip they won't be working long, guaranteed. The by-catch in ICW was no where close to that of offshore but still saw our share. We honestly worked hard of furious to get them back in the water via snow shovel as fast as we could.