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Dec. 8 Caller-Times - Closing More Beach
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:26 pm    Post subject: Email Addresses Reply with quote

Ok tried to send emails to these folks from two different servers. Need some help here. As a data point Mr Patterson is a former Naval Aviator. Would appreciate some help so I can help.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mother F*****! This ticks me off to a point I can't even explain. Aftyer all their hullabaloo about not closing anymore beach front, here comes this! And we are to believe our city counsil was unaware?

This should be pushed on a little harder, and should obtain news coverage across the state, because either we have a completely ignorant and unqualified bunch of fools running the city or we have a bunch of liars and manipulators. I would be willing to bet we have a mix of both.

If people from across the state write letters to our council people, their local and state officials and like Johhny said, to their newspapers and TV stations news programs, everyone can make a difference. Our city council members certainly cannot ignore an onslaught of posted mail heading their way. And filling their email accounts will also certainly not go ignored.

I no longer even have access to my work email where Mr. Chesney said he would retract his statements about wanting to close the beaches and apologize. I might be able to get them though, and I will try.

Carle Keeton Strayhorne is in fact against the beach closures as is her good friend the former Mayor Betty Turner. I asked Turner to be a spokes person for us, but she didn't want to get back into politics, but does believe that Senator Truan is too controversial a person to represent us, and people will vote against us just to spite him.

I wish I could win the lotto or Mega Millions, then I could donate money to fight these fights in court and buy out some of these landowners and return it to the wild or something.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are having trouble getting a email to Jerry Patterson send one to
Sam Webb/Deputy Commissioner sam.webb@glo.state.tx.us
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent in the LTTE this morning:
"Now it comes out that the city counsel either did not know about about a proposed doubling of the amount of beachfront closed to vehicular traffic, or that they hid it from us. We either have incompetent or untruthful leaders. It is likely a combination of the two.

The new request comes from a large anonymous developer, so there is no way to negotiate with the company. The representative says that an additional amount of beach must be closed within 90 days or the developer walks. This is highly suspicious. We warned it would be a slippery slope, and one closure would lead to more and more beach closures. Our beautiful island is on its way to becoming another Galveston or South Padre.

What do we get in return for the beaches? 1,500 tourism related jobs. Most will be at minimum wage and part-time. We lose access to over a mile of beach, from the jetties to Bob Hall Pier, and easy parking and walking out on the South Packery Jetty to enjoy the scenery or fishing. We also get another precedent that anyone with enough money can come in and buy your beaches from our city, and not even say who they are, or exactly what it is they want to do.

Call your government officials, and say no more closures. Sign the petitions located throughout town to send the current closure to the polls. Raise your voices and say, "No, you can't buy our beaches!""
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said when this crap first started, when big money is involved screw the public, politicians are all crooks, amy be honest when they get elected, but then they find out the rules. They talk about taxes, the city and county always give big developers a break on taxes and utilities to get them here. I hope the petitions work, but I for one will not hold my breath. Allen
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have family in CC and love to come down to fish and visit. Are yall upset about not driving on the beach or is there some kind of fishing ban at the proposed location? They can't buy the beach, only stop traffic right. Will you still be able to camp, build fires, and fish on any part of the beach?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not in proposed area. Then where does it end? Next group of builders will expect the same treatment, hollar racism ect.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dreamer, only if you want to carry your stuff a half mile. The real objective of the developers is to keep the rif raff (thats all of us regular folks) from using the beaches in front of their properties that are charging 200 bucks a nite. Heaven forbid to mix the locals with folks with the dollars to spend.
Quoted from the opinion article in the November issue Padre Island Business Bulletin "If you live on Padre Island ,and you live on a canal, you probably know that the water way behind your house is a public waterway. Now imagine that from dawn to dusk most days of the year groups of party boats anchor behind your house and create the same scene that you experience on any summer day at JP Luby Park. Imagine families playing loud music from boom boxes, kids laughing while they jump off their boat and a constant parade of boats coming and going from behind your house Imagine people fishing playing on boogie boards unriating off their boat and the smell of gasoline and trash as thay fill our waterway. now consider that all of this taste of socitey is perfectly legal and you would powerless to restrict it with the exception of public urination". So tell me the object of the developers is a concern for safety that vehicle trafic creates. Horse pucky!!! Remember those families playing laughing and enjoying the shore are you and me the riff raff. There is more but I don't want to bore you.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:03 pm    Post subject: beach Reply with quote

A couple of years ago I was privilaged to visit a beach that was controlled by the condo that was in back of it. My family and I had to pay $10 a head to use their access to the beach. We could not take our chairs, ice chest or any fishing equipment to the beach. We had to rent their chairs and umbrella. When we got thirsty we had to buy drinks from their concession stand at inflated prices. They also controlled all the floats, boogie boards, and kayaks. Something to look forward to if they continue to close the beaches.

One other thing to consider. I believe the city of CC controls the beaches north of Packery too. Possibly all the way to Port Aransas. Don't think that the condos already developed won't want their private beach too.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are already installing water and electric north of the state park getting ready for a big building boom along that stretch of beach. Wonder how come we havent heard from the developers getting ready to inundate that area?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any way to start a recall petition against the city council?

Schexnailder is the guy who is running the council from behind the scenes and it would be interesting to find our how many council members have recently "invested" in a realestate company that is paying monthly "dividends."
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better yet how about a petition to seceed from the city then the city can find a cash cow somewhere else. Now, they tax the crap out of us and when we scream for our share of services they occasionaly throw us a bone. Just turn you shower on at 7 Am and you may get wet. Curious how they are going to have enough water for a $1.5B development. The residents get water between 9 and 10....... PM
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:49 am    Post subject: Paul Schexnailder Reply with quote

I guess he settled this lawsuit!

Claim could sink plans for Padre Island resort
By John Tedesco
Express-News Coastal Bend Bureau
January 12, 2001
CORPUS CHRISTI — A lawsuit against a developer who wants to build a $677 million resort on North Padre Island could destroy his plans.

Paul Schexnailder, who has impressed city officials with the proposal for his "Great Texas Resort" near the Gulf of Mexico, is embroiled in an ongoing lawsuit against his former business partner, William Cocke.

In 1996, Cocke accused Schexnailder of cheating him out of a $4 million land deal on Padre Island. Schexnailder and another investor had bought large portions of property on the barrier island, including the Lake Padre subdivision that is now being considered as the site for Schexnailder's new resort.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: Political Contributions Reply with quote

SCHEXNAILDER, PAUL CONSULTANT 1,000 11/17/1999 ORTIZ FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE - Democrat

He gave Ortiz a $1000 in 1999.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:59 am    Post subject: Remember This! Reply with quote

NT July 7, 2002

Lately, we here in Corpus Christi, Texas have been entangled in a struggle that has pitted supporters of the latest Packery Channel development scheme against those who would like to see improvements to the downtown marina with an experienced tourism developer's involvement.

In a recent Corpus Christi Caller Times article Paul Schexnailder, developer of a proposed $677 million resort dependant on the dredging of Packery Channel believes that privatization of the marina via Landry's Seafood Restaurants, Inc. could hurt the ability of Packery Channel resort to attract tourists. This position may bring to the surface a lack of understanding of the tourism industry and raises serious doubt about the ability of the Packery Channel developer to deliver what he has promised.

What Mr. Schexnailder and his supporters seem to be saying is that a successful tourism destination being built in the area before his proposed 20 year development timeline is met would rob him of visitors. If that were the case nearly every successful tourist destination in the world would be limited to a "no growth status". This is a very weak argument at best.

The single biggest obstacle to the success of tourism in Corpus Christi is the lack of proper promotion and advertising to potential visitors and conventioneers. Since 1990 I have closely followed this City's involvement in the tourism business and one thing stands out above all else. Every City Council during the last decade has voted for a budget that does not allocate proper funds for tourism advertising and promotion. This action has not only damaged the ability of the City to "cash-in" on the financial benefits of tourism that have been promised to local residents and businesses, but it also violates Texas State Law.

Section 351 of the Texas Civil Tax Code requires that Cities who choose to tax patrons of hotels, motels and other bed accommodations use the money they collect in manner that promotes success in tourism. It just makes good sense to follow this law and promote what we as a community have invested so heavily in. There is a saying that "a business with no sign is a sign of no business". This is certainly the case with Corpus Christi's tourism business as we compete for our share of tourists expenditures.
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